Editor Mike D'Onofrio firstname.lastname@example.org
9:25 pm on Friday, June 14, 2013
no excuses at all, I already stated I am not a big Tebow fan, I clearly stated had he been given the same opportunity as Eli maybe he would be a decent quarterback. I can see comprehension is not a strong point to all you arm chair coaches.
4:56 pm on Friday, June 14, 2013
and he did it on a crappy team at that.
4:54 pm on Friday, June 14, 2013
I completely understand all of that, you obviously are missing my point. I already posted this so I will make it short. The Bronco's brought this guy into the NFL because they felt they saw something, they dropped him like a bad habit for Manning and he goes to another team to basically be sidelined and bad mouthed. That is not how you treat a player who has done nothing more then to try to prove himself especially after what he did for the Bronco's and especially since the NFL is full of overpaid should have beens. This guy maybe should have never been picked, but he was, and he did something for the Bronco's that hasn't been done since 2005 (I think), so to pull him in not give him the support needed, trash him then spit him out, is not the image I think the NFL should be projecting. If we bring you in, you better be ready to work and if your willing to do that we'll give you a shot, If you don't show us any results see ya. Thats not what happened here, they brought him in, he showed them results and then he was hung out to dry. The Patriots are doing the right thing by giving him another chance , and if after all of what he has gone through he still has that will to play, I think he will be a decent player, no matter what college he came from he has proven that he can win games in College and in the NFL.
3:54 pm on Friday, June 14, 2013
and if you even read any of my posts I stated that this is probably more about righting a wrong. This guys career didn't get tanked by his own doing, and the comments from the Jets team last year were pathetic and gives you some insight as to why they can't win games. Kraft wants to give this guy a shot because Tebow brought life to a team that was floundering and was cut, only to go to another team that that has even less class and put in news print that he sucked. Kraft might just have that in mind and feels Tebow is a breath of fresh air from the overpaid under achievers he regularly sees come through the NFL.
3:04 pm on Friday, June 14, 2013
now you are changing the comments I made, I never said he would be an elite player, I never said he would replace Brady, and I gave you the college stats of 2 players, Peyton Manning and Tim Tebow, so you want to throw out Tebows stats cause they don't matter because they were from college, but you want to keep Peytons stats because they are from college!?! I guess a recruiter then should just put a list of all the QBs in college in front of them and go eenie meenie miney moe, since college stats don't matter, and you should just assume a kid from college is going to play at NFL standards before he gets to the NFL, is that what you are saying? I'm trying to figure out the logic.
2:24 pm on Friday, June 14, 2013
@ FourScore, The Jets were stupid, and have been for a long time, so no surprise there. Any team that took Tebow after what they saw in Denver could have clearly seen that Tebow was still in college. He started the last 3 games of his 1st year, and wasn't full time till the 6th game of his 2nd season, the Bronco's did nothing to groom him as a starter and only threw him in out of desperation. If you were to go by GoBlue's theory since he clearly knows more than I, the genius and brilliant coaches of Denver were losing games even though they were incredible at calling plays with a decent quarterback 4-12 in 2010 and 1-4 before Tebow, but somehow started winning games with the worst NFL quarterback in history because of the same incredible play calling!? go figure. Since the Bronco's saw something in Tebow and got him into the NFL, did nothing but throw him in out of desperation, then dropped him like a bad habit after he gets them some place they haven't been in nearly a decade, (which to me getting manning was more about taking the pressure off the coaches) only to be picked up by the Jets whom did even less with him. I still say you have to look at his college #s and what he did for the Bronco's despite the lack of coaching he got from either NFL team, and think about if the Patriots had picked him out of college first, what kind of quarterback would he be.
1:18 pm on Friday, June 14, 2013
I wouldn't think he would be playing all that much either, again as I stated, I believe this is about giving the guy a chance vs what the Jets did. I feel that his college #s vs his NFL #s are something you have to question, is this a guy who has potential with the right team? Is the window for another Super Bowl win for the Patriots closing and this might be a cheap fix for a Tom Brady that hasn't shined as brightly during the playoffs? I know I don't know as much as GoBlue but I also know that Robert Kraft isn't knocking on anyone's door here to replace Belichick. I personally think this guy has potential If not I won't lose any sleep about being wrong, but If I am right some on this board would need to re-evaluate their knowledge of the sport.
12:22 pm on Friday, June 14, 2013
Since we are talking about how brilliant you are vs I, did you check the college stats on Peyton Manning vs Tim Tebow?
Passes 1354 Comp 851 Comp % 62.85 Yards 11201 Yds/Comp 13.16
TD 90 INT 33 ATT per INT 41
Passes 749 Comp 492 Comp % 65.68 Yards 7033 Yds/Comp 14.29
TD 73 INT 12 ATT per INT 62. Tebow wins on completed percentage, yards per completion, and attempts per completion. That is why I feel Broncos didn't know how to use him, they didn't try to reign in the college habits and prepare him for the NFL, thats 1 of the reasons they got Manning, Manning will give the Bronco's coaching staff an education on how to get to the Super Bowl.
12:05 pm on Friday, June 14, 2013
Go Blue, having a quarterback run all over the place is certainly not the best coaching, but your style may be different from mine so the insult of knowing nothing really depends on how much you think you know, I am sure you think you are the best little league coach on the planet.
11:51 am on Friday, June 14, 2013
I am not sure what the plan is, but my guess is that since the Patriots got him for a good price and they can release him without a problem, I am thinking this came from the Owner and offensive coordinator more than from Bill to pick up Tebow and is more about righting a wrong. No doubt Tebows work ethics and his ability to keep his mouth shut are right up the Patriots alley and hard to come by, so If you are getting someone cheap, who works hard, keeps his mouth shut, and really wants to play, especially in todays world, I think its a no lose situation and the Patriots would love nothing more than to embarrass the hell out of Rex. With Tebow you can run risky plays you wouldnt want to or could with Brady, his size and running ability allow him to be used in another position, and no doubt I wouldn't be surprised that after a few months in training they will know exactly where they want him. Brady is 35 so maybe this is a long term decision they are making, but to me Brady is a team player and I think if he knows that stepping out for a few plays is going to get the team another ring, he will do it, it may not be his first choice, but he will do it and gracefully. Tebow knows he has been given an opportunity that many don't get, he can't afford to blow it or he is done in the NFL, but he does carry himself with grace even when being crapped on, that may have been the only thing appealing to the Patriots and why they chose to try to rebuild his career. Time will tell.
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